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		<title>By: buttonmashing.com &#124; All Good Things&#8230;Must Come to An End</title>
		<link>http://buttonmashing.com/2008/02/19/all-good-thingspart-2/comment-page-1/#comment-80489</link>
		<dc:creator>buttonmashing.com &#124; All Good Things&#8230;Must Come to An End</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] almost five months, I just cannot do it.  I&#8217;m not going to be able to complete &#8220;The List.&#8221; It&#8217;s just gotten to be too [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] almost five months, I just cannot do it.  I&#8217;m not going to be able to complete &#8220;The List.&#8221; It&#8217;s just gotten to be too [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Finish Your Dinner : buttonmashing.com</title>
		<link>http://buttonmashing.com/2008/02/19/all-good-thingspart-2/comment-page-1/#comment-74515</link>
		<dc:creator>Finish Your Dinner : buttonmashing.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when it comes to the games I buy—new and used. I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;ve not been the best at completing games. I like what Jason does at Unfettered Blather tracking his purchases compared to the enjoyment he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
		<link>http://buttonmashing.com/2008/02/19/all-good-thingspart-2/comment-page-1/#comment-67706</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason

Yeah, it&#039;s pretty &lt;i&gt;endless&lt;/i&gt;. Sins of A Solar Empire doesn&#039;t have a campaign, so there&#039;s really no completion there either.  Amazing how games have become more ambiguous over time.  they are just more open to interpretation.

@Brock

I&#039;m going for story lines. I&#039;d have to really love a game to do 100% completion of everything. I&#039;ve only done that twice: Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.  I&#039;ll probably do it with Jeanne D&#039;Arc.

My only 100% completion exception on the list above is Lego Star Wars.  I&#039;ve done the story, now I want to collect all the LEGO pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s pretty <i>endless</i>. Sins of A Solar Empire doesn&#8217;t have a campaign, so there&#8217;s really no completion there either.  Amazing how games have become more ambiguous over time.  they are just more open to interpretation.</p>
<p>@Brock</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going for story lines. I&#8217;d have to really love a game to do 100% completion of everything. I&#8217;ve only done that twice: Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.  I&#8217;ll probably do it with Jeanne D&#8217;Arc.</p>
<p>My only 100% completion exception on the list above is Lego Star Wars.  I&#8217;ve done the story, now I want to collect all the LEGO pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://buttonmashing.com/2008/02/19/all-good-thingspart-2/comment-page-1/#comment-67703</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say completed, do you mean getting 100% of everything in the game or finishing the main storyline?

I have lots of games where I&#039;ve finished the storyline and I concider them done, beaten, finished... you get the drift.  There are only a few games in my entire gaming &#039;career&#039; that I&#039;ve 100% completed, but I usually don&#039;t care about finding and unlocking every last thing as long as I&#039;ve finished the story proper.  

A game like Professor Layton, for example, is a game I&#039;ve finished, even though I still have about 10-15 puzzles that I could work on before it&#039;s completed.  I&#039;ll keep it in my collection and bust it out every so often to see if my brain is up to the task of those last few puzzles, but I don&#039;t feel compelled to keep working on it right now due to the pile of other games that have come out.

I think a large part of the reason that I don&#039;t play through games multiple times or try to unlock every achievement or secret area, etc. is that I haven&#039;t quite reached the level of enlightenment that you have.  I have dialed down the amount of games that I&#039;ve bought, especially this winter, but I haven&#039;t gotten to the point where I can keep myself from picking up those gems like Endless Ocean and Sins Of A Solar Empire, no matter how many other games I have on my plate.

ALL of that said, the past couple of months have been banner months as far as game completion goes.  I haven&#039;t finished all of the games that I want to, but I&#039;ve been able to make it through several since October/November and it&#039;s very satisfying to clear the backlog out a bit.

Now to get to work and finish up the last couple fights in No More Heroes so I won&#039;t feel guilty about being so close to the end.  Stupid Lost Odyssey and it&#039;s massive amounts of awesome, keeping me from finishing another super awesome game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say completed, do you mean getting 100% of everything in the game or finishing the main storyline?</p>
<p>I have lots of games where I&#8217;ve finished the storyline and I concider them done, beaten, finished&#8230; you get the drift.  There are only a few games in my entire gaming &#8216;career&#8217; that I&#8217;ve 100% completed, but I usually don&#8217;t care about finding and unlocking every last thing as long as I&#8217;ve finished the story proper.  </p>
<p>A game like Professor Layton, for example, is a game I&#8217;ve finished, even though I still have about 10-15 puzzles that I could work on before it&#8217;s completed.  I&#8217;ll keep it in my collection and bust it out every so often to see if my brain is up to the task of those last few puzzles, but I don&#8217;t feel compelled to keep working on it right now due to the pile of other games that have come out.</p>
<p>I think a large part of the reason that I don&#8217;t play through games multiple times or try to unlock every achievement or secret area, etc. is that I haven&#8217;t quite reached the level of enlightenment that you have.  I have dialed down the amount of games that I&#8217;ve bought, especially this winter, but I haven&#8217;t gotten to the point where I can keep myself from picking up those gems like Endless Ocean and Sins Of A Solar Empire, no matter how many other games I have on my plate.</p>
<p>ALL of that said, the past couple of months have been banner months as far as game completion goes.  I haven&#8217;t finished all of the games that I want to, but I&#8217;ve been able to make it through several since October/November and it&#8217;s very satisfying to clear the backlog out a bit.</p>
<p>Now to get to work and finish up the last couple fights in No More Heroes so I won&#8217;t feel guilty about being so close to the end.  Stupid Lost Odyssey and it&#8217;s massive amounts of awesome, keeping me from finishing another super awesome game.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, let me know when you finish Endless Ocean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, let me know when you finish Endless Ocean.</p>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to start from scratch with most of them for a couple of reasons:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I had only done the first level or so
&lt;li&gt;I had not opened the game (yes! there were a couple)
&lt;li&gt;I had discarded the saves somewhere along the way
&lt;/ul&gt;
Only two did I have any progress on: Lego Star Wars and Puzzle Quest. The rest were either unplayed or in the opening stages.

Before anyone may ask, I need to add these games. The irony behind getting them is that I had already paid for most if not all of them. So, technically, I have not really bought any. However, this process has proven to me that pre-purchasing and reserving doesn&#039;t make a bit of difference. I need to be a better steward of my money and not just throw it away willy nilly and follow the current gaming fads. It&#039;s a weakness. I get games because everyone else does. 

It&#039;s also sad because it shows me that most developers cannot make a game that keeps me enthralled from start to finish. One &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; has a 100% track record with me and that is Valve.

Here are the games:
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Super Mario Galaxy
&lt;li&gt;Burnout Paradise
&lt;li&gt;Endless Ocean
&lt;li&gt;Sins of a Solar Empire
&lt;li&gt;Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends
&lt;li&gt;Fairway Solitaire
&lt;/ul&gt;
However, some games shouldn&#039;t make the list because they are open or ambiguous. 

Shoot. I should have made this another post. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to start from scratch with most of them for a couple of reasons:</p>
<ul>
<li>I had only done the first level or so
</li>
<li>I had not opened the game (yes! there were a couple)
</li>
<li>I had discarded the saves somewhere along the way
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<p>Only two did I have any progress on: Lego Star Wars and Puzzle Quest. The rest were either unplayed or in the opening stages.</p>
<p>Before anyone may ask, I need to add these games. The irony behind getting them is that I had already paid for most if not all of them. So, technically, I have not really bought any. However, this process has proven to me that pre-purchasing and reserving doesn&#8217;t make a bit of difference. I need to be a better steward of my money and not just throw it away willy nilly and follow the current gaming fads. It&#8217;s a weakness. I get games because everyone else does. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also sad because it shows me that most developers cannot make a game that keeps me enthralled from start to finish. One <i>one</i> has a 100% track record with me and that is Valve.</p>
<p>Here are the games:</p>
<ul>
<li>Super Mario Galaxy
</li>
<li>Burnout Paradise
</li>
<li>Endless Ocean
</li>
<li>Sins of a Solar Empire
</li>
<li>Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends
</li>
<li>Fairway Solitaire
</li>
</ul>
<p>However, some games shouldn&#8217;t make the list because they are open or ambiguous. </p>
<p>Shoot. I should have made this another post. <img src='http://buttonmashing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will never happen. Such an endeavor would end me. 

As it is I look at Nat&#039;s list and kind of shudder at attempting such a feat. I am doing something similar but cheating. Nat stated he started all these games from scratch? Not so with me, I am now trying to finally finish off some games that I&#039;ve come close to ending but never quite made it.

Let me tell you, finishing Halo was a chore unto itself. One for the OCD sufferers out there but not for mortal men such as myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will never happen. Such an endeavor would end me. </p>
<p>As it is I look at Nat&#8217;s list and kind of shudder at attempting such a feat. I am doing something similar but cheating. Nat stated he started all these games from scratch? Not so with me, I am now trying to finally finish off some games that I&#8217;ve come close to ending but never quite made it.</p>
<p>Let me tell you, finishing Halo was a chore unto itself. One for the OCD sufferers out there but not for mortal men such as myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bar graph of completion percentages? Nat, that is the nerdiest thing I have ever seen. It is AWESOME. Good luck making your way throught more of those games! I&#039;ve almost licked Bioshock, Pokemon Diamond and Halo 3.

@Jason - 89 games is quite a pile. Good luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bar graph of completion percentages? Nat, that is the nerdiest thing I have ever seen. It is AWESOME. Good luck making your way throught more of those games! I&#8217;ve almost licked Bioshock, Pokemon Diamond and Halo 3.</p>
<p>@Jason &#8211; 89 games is quite a pile. Good luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason O</title>
		<link>http://buttonmashing.com/2008/02/19/all-good-thingspart-2/comment-page-1/#comment-67697</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have missed the original announcement while I was still recovering from my ridiculous travel schedule.

I just looked. I have 89 games currently in my library. I have finished 19.

On the other hand, I have some games I consider &quot;Done&quot;. Not completed, but I&#039;ve played them about as much as I care to. Most of these stay in the library due to the kids or because I know I&#039;ll just rebuy them later if I trade them in. However, the list of &quot;Done&quot; games is short still than the list of &quot;Completed&quot;. 

Ugh, that means I have over 45 games that I think I&#039;ll eventually get around to playing more? Not a happy realization. That doesn&#039;t even count the library of PC games collecting dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have missed the original announcement while I was still recovering from my ridiculous travel schedule.</p>
<p>I just looked. I have 89 games currently in my library. I have finished 19.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I have some games I consider &#8220;Done&#8221;. Not completed, but I&#8217;ve played them about as much as I care to. Most of these stay in the library due to the kids or because I know I&#8217;ll just rebuy them later if I trade them in. However, the list of &#8220;Done&#8221; games is short still than the list of &#8220;Completed&#8221;. </p>
<p>Ugh, that means I have over 45 games that I think I&#8217;ll eventually get around to playing more? Not a happy realization. That doesn&#8217;t even count the library of PC games collecting dust.</p>
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